Comments on: He said, She said, Ze said http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/ Dancing at the revolution in a great pair of shoes Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:40:51 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Siobhan Neville http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-175 Siobhan Neville Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:33:48 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-175 I agree with you there about the option of a neutral pronoun. The word "partner" as an option has certainly been handy and often incredibly liberating. Great stuff to mull over. Thanks, V. I agree with you there about the option of a neutral pronoun. The word “partner” as an option has certainly been handy and often incredibly liberating.

Great stuff to mull over. Thanks, V.

]]> By: Veronica http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-174 Veronica Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:41:39 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-174 Hmm, interesting comment, Siobhan. I should clarify my position, though. I don't mean to imply that I want to erase gender altogether (or necessarily erase gender pronouns). I think there are certainly people who feel themselves to be either male or female, and why shouldn't we be able to refer to those people as either "he" or "she," depending on the case? What I think didn't come out in the post is that I would like there to be an option where we can refer to someone using a neutral pronoun. So, we can still keep "he" and "she" and then just add a neutral one to the group. Hmm, interesting comment, Siobhan. I should clarify my position, though. I don’t mean to imply that I want to erase gender altogether (or necessarily erase gender pronouns). I think there are certainly people who feel themselves to be either male or female, and why shouldn’t we be able to refer to those people as either “he” or “she,” depending on the case? What I think didn’t come out in the post is that I would like there to be an option where we can refer to someone using a neutral pronoun. So, we can still keep “he” and “she” and then just add a neutral one to the group.

]]> By: Siobhan http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-163 Siobhan Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:39:09 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-163 I've started Beginners' French where even a cup of tea is gendered. Beer is feminine, by the way. I sometimes feel I can hardly speak in Canada, that words are swimming in my mouth in my efforts to be neutral and inclusive, coming out cold and hesitant. This movement towards neutrality might, at the same time, be hindering expression. I smile when someone lovingly refers to their wife, whatever the gender. I miss the bawdy slang I hear in other countries sometimes. At the same time, I love living in Toronto because of what I don't hear. I’ve started Beginners’ French where even a cup of tea is gendered. Beer is feminine, by the way.

I sometimes feel I can hardly speak in Canada, that words are swimming in my mouth in my efforts to be neutral and inclusive, coming out cold and hesitant. This movement towards neutrality might, at the same time, be hindering expression. I smile when someone lovingly refers to their wife, whatever the gender. I miss the bawdy slang I hear in other countries sometimes. At the same time, I love living in Toronto because of what I don’t hear.

]]> By: jamie http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/ Dancing at the revolution in a great pair of shoes Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:40:51 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 Comments on: He said, She said, Ze said http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/ Dancing at the revolution in a great pair of shoes Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:40:51 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Siobhan Neville http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-175 Siobhan Neville Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:33:48 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-175 I agree with you there about the option of a neutral pronoun. The word "partner" as an option has certainly been handy and often incredibly liberating. Great stuff to mull over. Thanks, V. I agree with you there about the option of a neutral pronoun. The word “partner” as an option has certainly been handy and often incredibly liberating.

Great stuff to mull over. Thanks, V.

]]> By: Veronica http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-174 Veronica Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:41:39 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-174 Hmm, interesting comment, Siobhan. I should clarify my position, though. I don't mean to imply that I want to erase gender altogether (or necessarily erase gender pronouns). I think there are certainly people who feel themselves to be either male or female, and why shouldn't we be able to refer to those people as either "he" or "she," depending on the case? What I think didn't come out in the post is that I would like there to be an option where we can refer to someone using a neutral pronoun. So, we can still keep "he" and "she" and then just add a neutral one to the group. Hmm, interesting comment, Siobhan. I should clarify my position, though. I don’t mean to imply that I want to erase gender altogether (or necessarily erase gender pronouns). I think there are certainly people who feel themselves to be either male or female, and why shouldn’t we be able to refer to those people as either “he” or “she,” depending on the case? What I think didn’t come out in the post is that I would like there to be an option where we can refer to someone using a neutral pronoun. So, we can still keep “he” and “she” and then just add a neutral one to the group.

]]> By: Siobhan http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-163 Siobhan Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:39:09 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-163 I've started Beginners' French where even a cup of tea is gendered. Beer is feminine, by the way. I sometimes feel I can hardly speak in Canada, that words are swimming in my mouth in my efforts to be neutral and inclusive, coming out cold and hesitant. This movement towards neutrality might, at the same time, be hindering expression. I smile when someone lovingly refers to their wife, whatever the gender. I miss the bawdy slang I hear in other countries sometimes. At the same time, I love living in Toronto because of what I don't hear. I’ve started Beginners’ French where even a cup of tea is gendered. Beer is feminine, by the way.

I sometimes feel I can hardly speak in Canada, that words are swimming in my mouth in my efforts to be neutral and inclusive, coming out cold and hesitant. This movement towards neutrality might, at the same time, be hindering expression. I smile when someone lovingly refers to their wife, whatever the gender. I miss the bawdy slang I hear in other countries sometimes. At the same time, I love living in Toronto because of what I don’t hear.

]]> By: jamie http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-175 Siobhan Neville Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:33:48 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-175 I agree with you there about the option of a neutral pronoun. The word "partner" as an option has certainly been handy and often incredibly liberating. Great stuff to mull over. Thanks, V. I agree with you there about the option of a neutral pronoun. The word “partner” as an option has certainly been handy and often incredibly liberating.

Great stuff to mull over. Thanks, V.

]]> Comments on: He said, She said, Ze said http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/ Dancing at the revolution in a great pair of shoes Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:40:51 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Siobhan Neville http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-175 Siobhan Neville Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:33:48 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-175 I agree with you there about the option of a neutral pronoun. The word "partner" as an option has certainly been handy and often incredibly liberating. Great stuff to mull over. Thanks, V. I agree with you there about the option of a neutral pronoun. The word “partner” as an option has certainly been handy and often incredibly liberating.

Great stuff to mull over. Thanks, V.

]]> By: Veronica http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-174 Veronica Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:41:39 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-174 Hmm, interesting comment, Siobhan. I should clarify my position, though. I don't mean to imply that I want to erase gender altogether (or necessarily erase gender pronouns). I think there are certainly people who feel themselves to be either male or female, and why shouldn't we be able to refer to those people as either "he" or "she," depending on the case? What I think didn't come out in the post is that I would like there to be an option where we can refer to someone using a neutral pronoun. So, we can still keep "he" and "she" and then just add a neutral one to the group. Hmm, interesting comment, Siobhan. I should clarify my position, though. I don’t mean to imply that I want to erase gender altogether (or necessarily erase gender pronouns). I think there are certainly people who feel themselves to be either male or female, and why shouldn’t we be able to refer to those people as either “he” or “she,” depending on the case? What I think didn’t come out in the post is that I would like there to be an option where we can refer to someone using a neutral pronoun. So, we can still keep “he” and “she” and then just add a neutral one to the group.

]]> By: Siobhan http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-163 Siobhan Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:39:09 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-163 I've started Beginners' French where even a cup of tea is gendered. Beer is feminine, by the way. I sometimes feel I can hardly speak in Canada, that words are swimming in my mouth in my efforts to be neutral and inclusive, coming out cold and hesitant. This movement towards neutrality might, at the same time, be hindering expression. I smile when someone lovingly refers to their wife, whatever the gender. I miss the bawdy slang I hear in other countries sometimes. At the same time, I love living in Toronto because of what I don't hear. I’ve started Beginners’ French where even a cup of tea is gendered. Beer is feminine, by the way.

I sometimes feel I can hardly speak in Canada, that words are swimming in my mouth in my efforts to be neutral and inclusive, coming out cold and hesitant. This movement towards neutrality might, at the same time, be hindering expression. I smile when someone lovingly refers to their wife, whatever the gender. I miss the bawdy slang I hear in other countries sometimes. At the same time, I love living in Toronto because of what I don’t hear.

]]> By: jamie http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-174 Veronica Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:41:39 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-174 Hmm, interesting comment, Siobhan. I should clarify my position, though. I don't mean to imply that I want to erase gender altogether (or necessarily erase gender pronouns). I think there are certainly people who feel themselves to be either male or female, and why shouldn't we be able to refer to those people as either "he" or "she," depending on the case? What I think didn't come out in the post is that I would like there to be an option where we can refer to someone using a neutral pronoun. So, we can still keep "he" and "she" and then just add a neutral one to the group. Hmm, interesting comment, Siobhan. I should clarify my position, though. I don’t mean to imply that I want to erase gender altogether (or necessarily erase gender pronouns). I think there are certainly people who feel themselves to be either male or female, and why shouldn’t we be able to refer to those people as either “he” or “she,” depending on the case? What I think didn’t come out in the post is that I would like there to be an option where we can refer to someone using a neutral pronoun. So, we can still keep “he” and “she” and then just add a neutral one to the group.

]]> Comments on: He said, She said, Ze said http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/ Dancing at the revolution in a great pair of shoes Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:40:51 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Siobhan Neville http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-175 Siobhan Neville Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:33:48 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-175 I agree with you there about the option of a neutral pronoun. The word "partner" as an option has certainly been handy and often incredibly liberating. Great stuff to mull over. Thanks, V. I agree with you there about the option of a neutral pronoun. The word “partner” as an option has certainly been handy and often incredibly liberating.

Great stuff to mull over. Thanks, V.

]]> By: Veronica http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-174 Veronica Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:41:39 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-174 Hmm, interesting comment, Siobhan. I should clarify my position, though. I don't mean to imply that I want to erase gender altogether (or necessarily erase gender pronouns). I think there are certainly people who feel themselves to be either male or female, and why shouldn't we be able to refer to those people as either "he" or "she," depending on the case? What I think didn't come out in the post is that I would like there to be an option where we can refer to someone using a neutral pronoun. So, we can still keep "he" and "she" and then just add a neutral one to the group. Hmm, interesting comment, Siobhan. I should clarify my position, though. I don’t mean to imply that I want to erase gender altogether (or necessarily erase gender pronouns). I think there are certainly people who feel themselves to be either male or female, and why shouldn’t we be able to refer to those people as either “he” or “she,” depending on the case? What I think didn’t come out in the post is that I would like there to be an option where we can refer to someone using a neutral pronoun. So, we can still keep “he” and “she” and then just add a neutral one to the group.

]]> By: Siobhan http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-163 Siobhan Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:39:09 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-163 I've started Beginners' French where even a cup of tea is gendered. Beer is feminine, by the way. I sometimes feel I can hardly speak in Canada, that words are swimming in my mouth in my efforts to be neutral and inclusive, coming out cold and hesitant. This movement towards neutrality might, at the same time, be hindering expression. I smile when someone lovingly refers to their wife, whatever the gender. I miss the bawdy slang I hear in other countries sometimes. At the same time, I love living in Toronto because of what I don't hear. I’ve started Beginners’ French where even a cup of tea is gendered. Beer is feminine, by the way.

I sometimes feel I can hardly speak in Canada, that words are swimming in my mouth in my efforts to be neutral and inclusive, coming out cold and hesitant. This movement towards neutrality might, at the same time, be hindering expression. I smile when someone lovingly refers to their wife, whatever the gender. I miss the bawdy slang I hear in other countries sometimes. At the same time, I love living in Toronto because of what I don’t hear.

]]> By: jamie http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-163 Siobhan Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:39:09 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-163 I've started Beginners' French where even a cup of tea is gendered. Beer is feminine, by the way. I sometimes feel I can hardly speak in Canada, that words are swimming in my mouth in my efforts to be neutral and inclusive, coming out cold and hesitant. This movement towards neutrality might, at the same time, be hindering expression. I smile when someone lovingly refers to their wife, whatever the gender. I miss the bawdy slang I hear in other countries sometimes. At the same time, I love living in Toronto because of what I don't hear. I’ve started Beginners’ French where even a cup of tea is gendered. Beer is feminine, by the way.

I sometimes feel I can hardly speak in Canada, that words are swimming in my mouth in my efforts to be neutral and inclusive, coming out cold and hesitant. This movement towards neutrality might, at the same time, be hindering expression. I smile when someone lovingly refers to their wife, whatever the gender. I miss the bawdy slang I hear in other countries sometimes. At the same time, I love living in Toronto because of what I don’t hear.

]]> Comments on: He said, She said, Ze said http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/ Dancing at the revolution in a great pair of shoes Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:40:51 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Siobhan Neville http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-175 Siobhan Neville Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:33:48 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-175 I agree with you there about the option of a neutral pronoun. The word "partner" as an option has certainly been handy and often incredibly liberating. Great stuff to mull over. Thanks, V. I agree with you there about the option of a neutral pronoun. The word “partner” as an option has certainly been handy and often incredibly liberating.

Great stuff to mull over. Thanks, V.

]]> By: Veronica http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-174 Veronica Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:41:39 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-174 Hmm, interesting comment, Siobhan. I should clarify my position, though. I don't mean to imply that I want to erase gender altogether (or necessarily erase gender pronouns). I think there are certainly people who feel themselves to be either male or female, and why shouldn't we be able to refer to those people as either "he" or "she," depending on the case? What I think didn't come out in the post is that I would like there to be an option where we can refer to someone using a neutral pronoun. So, we can still keep "he" and "she" and then just add a neutral one to the group. Hmm, interesting comment, Siobhan. I should clarify my position, though. I don’t mean to imply that I want to erase gender altogether (or necessarily erase gender pronouns). I think there are certainly people who feel themselves to be either male or female, and why shouldn’t we be able to refer to those people as either “he” or “she,” depending on the case? What I think didn’t come out in the post is that I would like there to be an option where we can refer to someone using a neutral pronoun. So, we can still keep “he” and “she” and then just add a neutral one to the group.

]]> By: Siobhan http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-163 Siobhan Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:39:09 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-163 I've started Beginners' French where even a cup of tea is gendered. Beer is feminine, by the way. I sometimes feel I can hardly speak in Canada, that words are swimming in my mouth in my efforts to be neutral and inclusive, coming out cold and hesitant. This movement towards neutrality might, at the same time, be hindering expression. I smile when someone lovingly refers to their wife, whatever the gender. I miss the bawdy slang I hear in other countries sometimes. At the same time, I love living in Toronto because of what I don't hear. I’ve started Beginners’ French where even a cup of tea is gendered. Beer is feminine, by the way.

I sometimes feel I can hardly speak in Canada, that words are swimming in my mouth in my efforts to be neutral and inclusive, coming out cold and hesitant. This movement towards neutrality might, at the same time, be hindering expression. I smile when someone lovingly refers to their wife, whatever the gender. I miss the bawdy slang I hear in other countries sometimes. At the same time, I love living in Toronto because of what I don’t hear.

]]> By: jamie http://www.confabulous.ca/2009/04/he-said-she-said-ze-said/comment-page-1/#comment-157 jamie Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:28:14 +0000 http://www.confabulous.ca/?p=727#comment-157 I like your version, baby! I like your version, baby!

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