Peter Thiel doesn’t like women voting

by Sabine on May 5, 2009 · 3 comments

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Untitlted by mlinksvaAt one point in the distant past, I  was a graduate student struggling to understand the concept of postmodernism. Apparently, one of the features of postmodernism is a repudiation of nostalgia. When I was in school, I totally didn’t get this. What was wrong with nostalgia? I thought. I feel nostalgic on a fairly frequent basis.

Then I understood nostalgia on a political scale–a longing for a past (which probably never existed) that got to exclude, well, anyone that you can comfortably imagine.

Folks, if you, too, ever sat in a class and thought, “Nostalgia? What’s the big deal?” let me share with you a little piece of excrement that was sent in by one of our eagle-eyed readers (h/t to Female Talk for the link). It’s a piece by one Peter Thiel, a man who is wholly unremarkable to me except for the fact that he is the founder of PayPal. In his article, he bemoans the current state of the world, and says that things really started to go to hell in a handbasket in the 1920s, ’cause that’s when women started to get the vote, and there was a “vast increase in welfare beneficiaries.” Ugh.

But probably the most interesting part of the post is where he starts fantasizing about cyberspace, outer space and something called “seasteading” (yeah, we’re talking oceans instead of prairies) as zones where libertarians (read: people who look and think like Peter Thiel) can roam around, lasso some virtual cattle and experience real freedom. Or democracy. Or whatever. He intones:

A better metaphor is that we are in a deadly race between politics and technology. The future will be much better or much worse, but the question of the future remains very open indeed. We do not know exactly how close this race is, but I suspect that it may be very close, even down to the wire. Unlike the world of politics, in the world of technology the choices of individuals may still be paramount. The fate of our world may depend on the effort of a single person who builds or propagates the machinery of freedom that makes the world safe for capitalism.

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Did I just wake up inside a copy of Atlas Shrugged?

This is precisely the kind of nostalgia that is so very dangerous. It’s a colonialist longing for spaces and zones where the concerns of pioneers and money come first (rather than, say, the original, first inhabitants, like fish or moonscapes). It’s inherently anti-democratic. And it’s really repulsive.

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1 Veronica 05.05.09 at 9:31 pm

Two things:
1) Yeah, we women are always causing trouble. First we want to be able to vote; then we want to start working outside the home. What next–actually demanding equal pay?
2) Re: “mak[ing] the world safe for capitalism”: [Shudder] Does Thiel live on a planet where capitalism is actually disintegrating? ‘Cause if he does, then I’m moving there.

2 Alan R. Light 08.01.09 at 1:09 am

Thiel does not bemoan the right of women to vote. He simply observes that women are more liable to vote for statism than men, and that the advent of women voters in the United States coincided with the rise of the welfare state. This welfare state, of course, has produced a coalition of the elites, the bureaucrats, and the indigent, whose self-interest is to maintain a solid voting block that can plunder the wealth that the working classes (both men and women) produce.

But, of course, there are plenty of libertarian women as well, and plenty of statist men. The problem isn’t really with women, but with the philosophy of entitlement and enslavement. Naturally, anyone who values their own freedom, and who falls on the enslaved side of the equation rather than on the entitled side, would want to leave such a system.

I find your comments rather odd. Does your nostalgia for moonscapes really outweigh the need of human beings for freedom? You also haven’t explained how fish would be significantly impacted by seasteading. I understand that you may be comfortable in your chains, as presumably you get more out of the system than you put in, but your eagerness to belittle those who seek freedom seems rather selfish to me.

3 Sabine 08.03.09 at 8:12 pm

Just as I first did not understand the political significance of nostalgia at a certain point in my life, I also did not understand how incredibly annoying trolls were. Then I started to get some of my own. Aw, lookit the troll, readers!

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